my biggest project yet.... a gameroom

[joeks]

the major drawback to underfloor heating is the cost, used to have it in an old building I used to live in - is damn expensive!

I recently discovered that too when I got the bill from the energy company. Had a double garage build last year for my gameroom and car + storage etc.
Expensive but very comfy. I did dail the temperature back temporarily to 10 degrees celcius since then by the way

[joeks]

Very harmful for pianos and all wooden musical instruments because of rising dry air...........uh-oh......

Wait, what?!
Guess it won't be that much of a concern for our hobby. At least this way we don't have to be afraid of damp or moist arcade cabinet bottoms.

[level42]

Yeah but drying out the wooden cabs is not a good idea either....I guess a moistener would be a good idea...

[joeks]

That's a bummer.
Think I got everything covered and then this comes up
Well, no issues as of yet. I do have the doors open a lot for fresh air.

[liquidx]

I have underfloor heating and my bill is lower than before.

It is a new type though, it doesn't need heavy bases etc like previous systems, or need to be turned on at the beginning of winter and take several days to reach stable temperatures, we even have a wooden floor over it. Granted, the building is well insulated and we have "double flux" ventilation with a heat exchanger that means we don't need to open windows to air the place out, temperature and humidity are constant. The difference is really impressive. It's also nice not to have radiators taking up room.

Supposedly the problem with pianos and even some people (those with bad circulation in the legs were affected) are with the old system. I can't tell, I have good circulation and no piano

[joeks]

Good to hear that you save money on it Liquidx.
Well, I can't compare it to how it was before our new garage was build, because originally there was only an old brick shed without any heating or insulation.
Our new garage is very well build and insulated so I expect no problems

[Laszo]

Everything is said...   Some input from my side. The floor heating/cooling I have chosen because it removes the need for wall fittings. It also gives you a nice warm floor so I can do some bare feet gaming  

The system has temperature control per room so I can give the cave it own climate. The cave also has automated ventilation (duco box) which is controlled by CO2 and moisture sensors. So I will be able to (remotely) monitor that the cabs don't dry out and the gamers don't suffocate  . To make sure the place does not get overheated during intensive game play I have decided to put in an additional airco unit. (these cost less then a 20 year old pinball now a days   )

Currently the concrete floor has been poured in and next week we will start with the tiles, toilette and so on. The ceiling will be lowered at the bar area and to keep the noise at acceptable levels I will use Asona SonaSpray black to cover the ceiling direct above the machines... this stuff can do miracles when it comes to noise reduction.

Currently I'm working on the light plan.... Any suggestions regarding lamps, spots, black light and where to make custom neon is greatly appreciated.

So that's it... I'm gonna play with some BL string led I bought today.

[level42]

Light plan advise:

Big f-lights to work. Make sure you will have nice bright even light.

NO lights in "play mode". Just neons etc.

[Laszo]

Yeah something like this tl be fitted to the ceiling but I'm also thinking about a black light setup with both led and conventional blacklite tubes or blubs. I alsowanna do something with neon. Any suggestions where to order custom made neon?

[Laszo]

Buying stuff for testing.

[Laszo]

The floor is being tiled.

[Laszo]

Tested the BL led. It is true black light but gives also a lot of light in the visible spectrum.

[Sonic 1992]

Awesome!!  I've never seen BLACKLIGHT LED!!

You say it makes the proper glow?  Does it give the fluorescent glow on blacklight related items?

I would love to be able to ditch all the T12 bulbs in favor of this!

But:  Does it put out as much light as a T12 bulb?

[level42]

Any suggestions where to order custom made neon?

http://www.aoos.com

This is where my Atari neon comes from but he can do anything you want if you send him a file...

This is his ebay store: http://www.ebay.com/usr/aoos.store

[Laszo]

Awesome!!  I've never seen BLACKLIGHT LED!!

You say it makes the proper glow?  Does it give the fluorescent glow on blacklight related items?

I would love to be able to ditch all the T12 bulbs in favor of this!

But:  Does it put out as much light as a T12 bulb?

It is proper black light but not exactly the same. The led gives more visible blue light compared to a t12 but still also a lot of invisible light that makes stuff glow.... I'm going to setup some testing.