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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2013, 08:43:59 PM »
where can i recommend you at klov ?
is that specified in the mail ?

let me know and i will recommend you

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« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2013, 08:59:32 PM »
where can i recommend you at klov ?
is that specified in the mail ?

let me know and i will recommend you

Thanks, on klov *** How To Gain Full Forum Access *** page it says:

If you have friend on this site already, and you want full access via the recommendation method, give the friend your forum username and ask them to contact us on your behalf.

 
my account name on klov is: 2ndReboot

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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2013, 09:09:03 PM »
One thing i forgot to mention about my steering unit is that on cab 1 the gummi rubber has broken off

   the state in my cab 1

     how it's supose to be, cab 2


So this part is also needed. Because its sollid rubber or plastic it could be made of hard wood or so.
In that light here are the measurements:














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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2013, 09:35:02 PM »
Now that i know what's wrong with the steering units all i can do now is to find the missing/broken parts.

So to the next problem, the gear unit.












When i opened the gear unit of cab 1 all the cables were loose, no cables were connected to the microswitch and the cables were in a knot!
Very limited space to get the knot out, only room for one hand. Search for smaller hands or the side must be removed.




Gear unit of cab 2 had one cable connected to the microswitch, so were does the other cable connect to?
2 choices, the middle or bottom connector of the microswitch. Turned out to be the middle one. The bottom one isn't used.



When the microswitch is pushed its low gear, not pushed is high gear. So cab 1 plays always in high gear mode because no wires are connected which is the same as not pushed.


Where does that green ground cable go onto?




My gear handles are all very loose, has no friction at all. Is this normal or are my gears
missing a spring or something? Where are those holes for?


« Last Edit: April 28, 2013, 03:56:32 PM by Reboot »

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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2013, 11:09:54 PM »


Let's calculate....let's assume that it was on guilders 50 percent of it's life and 50 on Euro's (to make it easier)....

230000/2 = 115000 x DLF 1, 115000 x €1

Let's go easy and say a guilder was half a € so 57500 + 115000 = €172500

Subtract new price of the machine BITD, let's say it was DFL 10000, so about €5000

Let's add €1000 for maintenance and licenses throughout the years....

€172500-€6000 = €166500 profit for 1 machine.....f-ing awesome IMHO !!!!

Then again....we need to spread it out over about 25 years....€6660 per year.

Still very good for 1 machine....


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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2013, 02:15:57 PM »
Had a little sparetime yesterday so used it to take the gear of cab 2 apart by unscrewing the 2 screws on both sides



Then push the this thing (don't know its name) aside and take the small ring away. Now you can take the bracket apart.







The plate has a deep scratch mark between and underneath the 2 holes were normally the ball bearing fall in when you move the gear
from low gear to high gear.
Wear and tear from frequently use.

Took out the ball bearings and spring. Damn, the spring is broken. That explained the over smoothness of the gear which had no feeling of putting it into position.



The 2 spring parts were curled up. Uncurled them and turned then 180 degrees so the two ends becomes the middle and the ends which broke off each other becomes the outerparts.
Cleaned it up and put some grease on the spring and ball bearings and some on the plate so the gear stick moves smooth again with a feeling of putting the gear in low or high position





Put it together and went on with the gear of cab 1.
Some difference between the two, the sides of gear from cab 1 is original (broken off but weld again) that of gear of cab 2 has 2 new L shaped metals on it.

gear of cab 2

gear of cab 1

Gearbracket of cab 1 is less worn but... it's missing the ball bearings and spring.  :(



(so here is my answer of the question i asked earlier if i missed something, answer: yes indeed for 1 cab)
So only cleaning it a bit and that's it for that one, have to seach for those parts first.
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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2013, 08:14:46 PM »
Then push the this thing (don't know its name) aside and take the small ring away. Now you can take the bracket apart.


I believe its called a "E-Clip"  ;)

It does have the shape of the letter E  ::)


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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2013, 11:46:45 PM »
hi etienne and reboot
i looking for Gear B rerpo or spare pieces nobody have one for me please to sell in metal or plastic Thanks you*

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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2013, 09:40:38 PM »
hi etienne and reboot
i looking for Gear B rerpo or spare pieces nobody have one for me please to sell in metal or plastic Thanks you*


Hi zamoth, can't help you because i'm looking for those gears myself. Etienne posted a for sale thread earlier here (on page 1) from klov forum by a guy named TravisH but i can't reply there to buy those. Don't know if you are a member there, if so you can buy the repro gears there.
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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2013, 09:55:55 PM »

I believe its called a "E-Clip"  ;)

It does have the shape of the letter E  ::)



Thanks, the manual calls it an E-ring, like E-clip better  :)

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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2013, 12:40:52 AM »
hi thanks reboot
for answer no i am not in klov member if you buy it can you ask 1 more Gear b in your order for me please !
let s me know iff it s possible thanks a lot thomas
i know some guys in uk do reproduction in Iron stuf not nylon did you see ? metal maybe beter all the times outrun is fatal Gear B is broken many times it s  symptome !! lol

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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2013, 09:55:45 PM »
Next part to check is the base of the cab where the hydraulic parts are and the power supply.
So the chair must be taken off. 2 bolts at the back



and 2 at the front below the chair



Then alot of wiggling and pushing. Finally got it out (look out for the 3 plugs underneath the chair!)



Treasures to be found under the chair: Lot of dust, a few zippers?? and euro coins  ;D





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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2013, 09:44:08 PM »
Forgot to take photo's of the other cab, which also had even more zippers and euro's. All in all a discount of the price of around 25 euro's  :)

The one i have taken photo's from even has a few air hockey pucks in the base. How did they get there??



Did not have much free time from work with all the special days lately so for now only a few photo's (of which you can never have enouth of) of the hydraulic base.





The big micro switcher things are the limit switchers on which the hydraulic moves on from left to right.









The big motorunit which moves the whole car





The V-belt








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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2013, 10:09:12 PM »
Cab 2 don't move at all, seems to not getting any power in the hydraulic base unit, how can you check what's wrong with the power suply?

Checked the fuses by swapping them with the ones from the working cab 1, no luck
No buzzing or any sound at all, no sign of life, even the fans are dead.











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Re: Outrun deluxe sitdown
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2013, 01:39:40 AM »
didn't have time to work on the cab recently, but found some useful things when I was surfing the web.




How to video on Sega Outrun Gear Installation by Travis Holcomb (very useful for noobs like me, so many thanks Travis!  :spaceace: is he the same as TravisH, who sells those repro gears in the topic I can't read?)  Yes he is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHkAdpb3e5c

and thanks to Etienne for recommend me on klov so I can post reply's there  :spaceace:.... but somehow I still can't get into the sale link of the gears Etienne linked here earlier.

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=272475

so I don't understand this, is there some other rule, maybe more then 10 post or a time restriction, only member longer than a month or so, can see that topic.
Why is that topic restricted for only a few and not all klov members?

[edit] you need also 30 posting and 30 day full membership to see some sub forums! [edit]

Can someone copy/post new entries from that topic here? (Etienne has posted some here already so later entries are welcome especially mentioning when the gears become available)

Is there some US member here who is willing to buy those gears for me and ship it to the Netherlands? maybe via another dutch member who he knows/trust in case he won't because i'm a newbie here.

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