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Re: Found one of my grails - a nice Asian type
« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2012, 07:30:26 AM »
@leonk, don´t worry, Level42 didn´t mean what he said, because here is his real opinion of Candy cabs:

I'm sorry, I do have my principles..........

But I have no trouble at all shouting here that Japanese Candy cabs are not that bad after all and I can understand it and appreciate it that people love them and that they keep the Japanese Arcade spirit alive

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Re: Found one of my grails - a nice Asian type
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2012, 07:55:22 AM »
This cab has a nice history and the landscapes are awesome, thanks for sharing. :spaceace:

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Re: Found one of my grails - a nice Asian type
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2012, 08:31:19 AM »
I will not bash the candies, i will only say the i am happy for you erik  ;)

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Re: Found one of my grails - a nice Asian type
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2012, 08:53:30 AM »
Quote from: leonk
1. They're made from fiberglass not plastic.
2. They have a soul - a far east one
3. Artwork? Wrong again.  You just see the stripped version.  With kits, you get nice move strips, and marquees that are much bigger than the woodies that go into the marquee holder
4. Fishing rods and baseball bats are just some of the dedicated controls for the candy cabs.  A lot of them also have majong dedicated controls (with what seems like 100 buttons!!!)

Best part .. you can fit a lot more games into your game room!!!  You don't have a lot of wasted space like you do in the woodies.  I've seen a lot of bad woodies as well (black sides with stickers stuck to it that bubble up, 19" screens in a cab the size of a car, a cab that looks like it went through a car wash and is now a termite sandwich, etc).  To each their own!   :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously though, if I were going to play a lot of fighters and/or shooters, they just feel more right in a candy than they do in a woody.  Candy were the last big hoorah before consoles killed it all.

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I own 3 Sega candy cabinets myself. An Astro, New Astro and a Blast City and I am proud to own them :)
Can look at it for hours, even without the machines powered on.

Great to see you've bought Henk's Blast City back :)
Awesome cabinet.
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Re: Found one of my grails - a nice Asian type
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2012, 12:01:56 PM »
WOW, this is a really nice cab. I played on a Blast City one time and I really liked it. Does the screen have any burns? I think it's hard to get a Blast City in Europe without burns. Nonetheless, this Cab is really cool! Gz!!
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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2012, 02:58:35 PM »
WOW, this is a really nice cab. I played on a Blast City one time and I really liked it. Does the screen have any burns? I think it's hard to get a Blast City in Europe without burns. Nonetheless, this Cab is really cool! Gz!!

Burns: 0%, noppes, nada, niente. No sir, no burn at all! One of the reasons why I did want this particular cab.  :spaceace:

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Re: Found one of my grails - a nice Asian type
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2012, 04:14:43 PM »
Eric,

Can I have first dibs on it if you ever decide to sell it? :)


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« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2012, 04:20:12 PM »
Eric,

Can I have first dibs on it if you ever decide to sell it? :)

Yes, you can, and you have.  :)

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Re: Found one of my grails - a nice Asian type
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2012, 12:25:30 AM »
First of all, I am truelly very happy for Erik that he found his Japanese holy grail because he's one of my best friends in this hobby.

And indeed I still agree what I (somewhat "encouraged") posted there (see Erik's quote). I can understand that others like them, but that doesn't mean that I neccesarely have to like them ;) I do see their place in arcade history though and I can see me play Metal Slug on one...

The whole point is that this hobby is for a large part fueled by the emotion of the memory of cabs/games. I COMPLETELY lack that emotion with candies simply because I never even knew they excited until I started in this hobby.... I am too old to have a link with them.

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« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2012, 04:26:54 AM »
Level42: I understand.

I grew up in the 90s ... My first cab experiences were mortal kombat and newer cabs. In the last decade, candy cabs invaded some arcades here and I played them.  For me, I have no emotional attachment to 80s cab games - they're as interesting for me as playing a game on an Atari (ie none)

Every pot has its lid.  Let the flames begin.  ;)

I enjoy forums like this not because of the games they restore but rather amazed at the dedication and craftsmanship that people put into the restore - you guys are true artists.

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Re: Found one of my grails - a nice Asian type
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2012, 08:49:07 AM »
First of all, I am truelly very happy for Erik that he found his Japanese holy grail because he's one of my best friends in this hobby.

And indeed I still agree what I (somewhat "encouraged") posted there (see Erik's quote). I can understand that others like them, but that doesn't mean that I neccesarely have to like them ;) I do see their place in arcade history though and I can see me play Metal Slug on one...

The whole point is that this hobby is for a large part fueled by the emotion of the memory of cabs/games. I COMPLETELY lack that emotion with candies simply because I never even knew they excited until I started in this hobby.... I am too old to have a link with them.

I could not describe it better, so +1!  :spaceace:

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« Reply #26 on: July 27, 2012, 12:21:52 PM »
I also don't have any relation or memory from the past regarding candy cabs. In fact, I first heard about them about 7 years ago. But still I like them very much. so I wonder why?

I guess it is because not only do I like to play the early 80's classic games (because of fond memories but also because they are still enjoyable), but I also happen to like the frantic gameplay of more modern games from let's say the early nineties until today, where I mainly or almost completely focus on SHMUP's. They very often happen to be from Japanese origin and I like them because they are though, always colourful, often have that mysterious Japanese appeal and they very often have great music. In short, they give me a good thrill.

In Europe these 'modern' games very often didn't come out in dedicated cabs, but in ugly generic woody's. However, in Japan the gamers had it better. There the arcade market was and still is very big, so cab builders did their best to give the players, in a cost effective way (make cabs in which games could easily be swapped), the best gaming experience, through cabs with big monitors, good sound systems, comfortable seats, so players could play the frentic games for hours and hours.  :)

And because I reckon that the Japanese know what they are talking about, I tried it myself a few years ago. And they are right, Candy cabs do give the best experience to play my type of games.  ;D so, that's why I like them, not persé for the astethics (although I do think some of them look great, like the NAC and the Blast, not the Taito E2 or E3, these are to round, sissy cabs), but because of the gameplay experience they give me. I very often hear that those big monitors are too big for 15K lowres games, but that is a matter of taste. I want to see scanlines, it adds to experience, not only for older games, but also for modern games. And big monitors give great scanlines.  :D


Just as I like to play the classic games in their original way, I also like to play the modern (SHMUP) games in the way as it was intended for them.


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Re: Found one of my grails - a nice Asian type
« Reply #27 on: July 29, 2012, 09:45:13 AM »
Do the XBOX 360 cave conversion can be played on 'tate' mode? Or any XBOX/PS2 shmups by the way?

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Re: Found one of my grails - a nice Asian type
« Reply #28 on: July 29, 2012, 10:37:22 AM »
Do the XBOX 360 cave conversion can be played on 'tate' mode? Or any XBOX/PS2 shmups by the way?

Yeah, here is a list that I try to keep up to date


Tate SHMUP's


Sega Saturn
Batsugun (J)
Battle Garegga (U)
DonPachi
DoDonPachi
Galactic Attack (U)
* aka Layer Section (J)
* aka Rayforce (E)
Gekirindan
Gunbird
Kyukyoku Tigers 2 Plus (Twin Cobra 2)
Shienryu
Sonic Wings Special
Strikers 1945
Strikers 1945 II
The Game Paradise
Gunsmoke
Image fight

Sega Dreamcast
Trizeal
Gunbird 2 (You have to select Arcade (as opposed to Original 1 or Original 2) to display GB2 in tate)
Trigger Heart Exelica
Under Defeat
Psyvariar 2
Ikaruga
Radirgy
Karous
Castle of Shikigami 2 (U)
* aka Shikigami No Shiro 2 (J)

Sony Playstation
Capcom Generations Vol. 1: 1942, 1943 Battle of Midway, 1943 Kai
Capcom Generations - Blazing Guns (E): Mercs, Commando, Gunsmoke
DoDonPachi
DonPachi
Raiden DX
Raiden Project
Sonic Wings Special
Strikers (only the imports have TATE, including the PS1 Book release)
Toaplan Shooting Battle (one game on there)
Twin Cobra
Xevious
Image Fight
Assault
Dragon Spirit
Exed Exes
Vulgus

Sony Playstation 2
Gunbird 1
Gunbird 2
Trigger heart Exelica (not yet released)
Psyvariar 2
Psyvariar Medum Unit
Psyvariar Revision
Radirgy
Dodonpachi Dai ou jou
Espgaluda
Mushihime sama
Ibara
Homura
Dragon Blaze
Raiden III
Shikigami No Shiro (Japanese version only)
Shikigami No Shiro II
XII Stag
Contra

Nintendo Gamecube
Ikaruga
Shikigami No Shiro II
Radirgy Generic

Nintendo Wii
Shikigami No Shiro III

Microsoft XBOX
Shikigami No Shiro
Shikigami No Shiro II
Psyvaria 2

Microsoft XBOX 360
Shikigami No Shiro III
Raiden Fighters Aces (J)
Raiden IV (J)
DoDonPachi Daioujou Black Label Extra (J)
Espgaluda 2 (RF)
Ketsui (J)
Muhishi Sama Futari 1.5 (RF)
DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu Ver 1.5
Guwange (16:9 ratio in Tate, not 4:3)
Triggerheart Excelia
KOF Sky Stage
Mushihime Sama HD
Ikaruga
Bullet Soul
Muchi Muchi Pork
Pink Sweets