WG 6100 repair logs

[Etienne MacGyver]

I Like reading stuff like this.

same as the Rany Fromm videos, or Adam's videos , its very informative !

Its like back to school again 

Keep up the good work !

[level42]

I understand not everybody can follow some of the stuff i write and .....it is a lot of text sometimes....maybe I should video more

Well these experiences with these 6100s have been absolutely good for me because I feel a LOT more confident with them now. I learned a lot about weak spots (and the 6100 if FULL of them ) I didn't know about yet.

I think I will start Europe's first vector monitor repair company If you have problems with any vector monitors and want repairs, drop me a PM. Prices will be reasonable (can't say that about shipping though ! )

I also learned that having a good working version of the monitor around is extremely handy to say the least ! Without Thwocker's 6100 it would have either taken me much longer or maybe not find some issues at all.

Soon I will have my very own 6100 with a great "box" around it

[level42]

Installed back the neck board but adjusting focus is still not working right. I'll need to order a new flyback



I guess no one in Europe is selling these right ?

[Belike]

I absolutely agree, 6100's have a lot of weak points.
It is great to see that somebody can always defeat them.

[atarimania]

Andre, you're a CHAMPION.

For a dummy like me in electronics, you're a genious. My Space Duel thanks you too 

[tb lilley]

Installed back the neck board but adjusting focus is still not working right. I'll need to order a new flyback

Worth checking this thread:

http://www.ukvac.com/forum/electrohome-19-go7-focus-problem-solved_topic330620.html

I've fixed a couple of focus issues following this advice (ended up fitting new neck sockets to neck cards).

[level42]

Yup, you're right ! I got a another tip about the spark gap issues so I just swapped out the neckboard for the known working one on Thwocker's 6100 and the problem was gone !

Now, the CR-24 sockets are not available anywhere (well found one place, they were asking 42 euro for one, crazy but also understandable, but I wondered of that even would be a new part,

Anyway, I will have to open the CRT connector which will be hard to do without damaging it. I guess I'll have to desoldering it from the board.....

[tb lilley]

You can find CR-24 neck sockets on some Hantarex 9000 neck cards. Those monitors used either CR-23 or CR-24 depending on which tube they used. Worth asking around if you're desperate as a scrap 9000 neck card can be a useful source for a CR-24 socket.

[level42]

OK I Desoldered The CRT connector and carefully cracked it open. Was a bit puzzled about what I found inside but I understand it now.

I definitly found the reason why the focus showed this behavior, I'll try to upload some pics this evening.

[Laszo]

OK I Desoldered The CRT connector and carefully cracked it open. Was a bit puzzled about what I found inside but I understand it now.

I definitly found the reason why the focus showed this behavior, I'll try to upload some pics this evening.

I'm getting very curious now 

[level42]

OK this is the socket.....

By the way....these are unobtainable now

[level42]

This is what was left of the focus wire on the solder-eye, it was hanging on by 1 strand !

So I stripped it and resoldered it.

[level42]

Here it is pried open:

Below you see the focus wire soldered to the eye. Then the eye runs into a disc-shaped metal with a bump on top.  (Ignore the small white circular things, those are broken off from the plastic cover because of the prying open of the cover).

Above that there is a wire in V shape hanging above it. This wire is connected to Ground via the PCB. So, if voltages get extreme, there will be a spark jumping from the disc to the V shape and so protecting the CRT. The distance between the disc and V is about 1 cm. a pretty big gap to jump for electricity !

Now the metal runs on further to the top of the picture, it bends down (so the tube fits) and there is what I think the problem....because it is loose there. The pin (like a cross) you see on the top of the picture is the focus pin that connects to the tube.

[level42]

Same situation from the side:

[level42]

and here what I _think_ is the issue: I can simply lift up the pin !

However it almost looks to clean too be broken off.....it is almost as if it is meant to be this way...


So....I wonder if anybody knows...is it supposed to be contacting just by position or should this be 1 piece of metal all the way and should I try to solder it ?