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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #120 on: January 19, 2012, 09:27:43 PM »
I decided that it would be better to get the tube out of the cab to do the rejuvenating AND the further adjustments of both chassis.
Normally it is already very hard to adjust a monitor in a cab (using a mirror) but in this case the huge canopy (which also needs to be shifted back to be able to reach the chassis) makes it even worse. I want to see the screen directly for perfect adjustment.

Also I want to do the (further) measuring and rejevunation of the tube at room temperature to rule out any temp influence...

Still waiting for some pots for the neckboards fromRS online, another brilliant DHL delivery....

Naturally I am very interested in the condition of the other tube.............


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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #121 on: January 21, 2012, 06:56:00 PM »
.....and thus Polder visited me today with his tube !

Man those 25"es are heavy beasts.

Since my wife and kid are away today I have no problems setting up workshop :)



Operating the rejuvenator is not really but a bit complicated, at least you closely have to follow each step. Sometimes the manual is not very clear or instead TOO clear maybe...but we manage.
The thing I hadn't done before was setting up the cut-off correctly before measuring my tube.

So, this time I closely followed the manual (hence iPad) step by step.

Although the primary steps made it show somewhat better results, I still wasn't very happy about them:


So I decided to rejuvenate the guns on setting "Clean" (which means the lowest current used, and let's say the "softest" setting.

We saw some nice little fireworks in the neck of the tube (like expected & intended for the Green & Blue tube. The Red one (which was the best to start with) didn't show much fireworks at all.

Regretfully I didn't take a pic after the rejuvenating but the Green & Blue guns had jumped from 0,5 mA to around 1,0 mA !!!!!
The Red gun shows about the same results, so strangely it's now the "weakest" one of the three but still good enough...

Of course we also checked Bart's tube and decided we shouldn't really mess with it. The values were not ideal but definitely in the "good" area.

Of course it was time to check the result:
So we "installed" Bart's game PCB set, an iso-transformer and a switcher for the PCB set and......


We have a very bright and clean picture !!!!!!

(Small dark band in the top is caused by the camera)

It is a difference between night and day seriously !!! Woo-hoo, my first successful rejuvenation. Buying the Muter definitely paid off now, impossible to find a med-res 25" tube today (well almost).

We do still have some minor issues, there's still some flickering but I'm pretty convinced that the bad neck-board pot meters are the cause for this (still waiting for delivery of the new one's). Also it's almost impossible to set-up the colors correctly with these pots as they developed a "sweet spot" where they work worst, but are supposed to be set to....
Also there is some edge converging to do later.

I'll post some video a bit later...

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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #122 on: January 21, 2012, 07:40:12 PM »
fabulous news, andré! i love that setup in your LIVING ROOM :D
all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!

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« Reply #123 on: January 21, 2012, 08:03:05 PM »
That it totally amazing!!!  :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:

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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #124 on: January 21, 2012, 08:22:06 PM »
Yeah ! It's a shame we didn't take a "before" pic of the screen....

Here's the promised video. First parts shows the rejuvenation in progress (some nice fireworks in the tube :P)


http://youtu.be/9JxFi0LtOMI

BE SURE TO SWITCH TO 1080p !!!

In the beginning you see the normal neck glow you get when the rejuvenator is connected and powered up (heating it up). Somewhat later you see the small white flashes of the rejuvenation going on...



There's still color adjusting to be done, but we'll wait for the new pots because the old one's are so poor it was hard to set it a little bit nice...this was about the best....

OK, rejuvenating service now available, 25 euro's per tube (at own risk) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #125 on: January 21, 2012, 08:44:25 PM »
Quote from: Level42
OK, rejuvenating service now available, 25 euro's per tube (at own risk) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

aaarh - you Dutch people have to make money of everything!  ;)

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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #126 on: January 21, 2012, 08:53:39 PM »
Great to see some sparks that burn the guns clean!

great music also by the way  :spaceace:

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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #127 on: January 21, 2012, 09:18:20 PM »
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OK, rejuvenating service now available, 25 euro's per tube (at own risk) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

aaarh - you Dutch people have to make money of everything!  ;)
Hey gotta make up for the Euro crisis somehow ;););)

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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #128 on: January 21, 2012, 09:20:16 PM »
Monitor looks pretty damn fresh again!

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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #129 on: January 22, 2012, 01:48:18 PM »
Is your cabinet having some colorfading on the right side, or did there something go wrong with scanning ?



Anyway, colors we can adjust, so its good enough to vectorise ;)

EDIT:

looking at the scan of the licence plate, there is nothing wong with the cab, its the right scan that did a discoloration.
well.. , i only need the left part, and the licence plate, the right part is an exact mirrored image from the left side  8)

And they are highres available here  ;)
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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #130 on: January 22, 2012, 06:27:55 PM »
I don't know if it would help, but I have an actual California license plate in a box somewhere if a hires scan of the top would help.  It might be somewhat reflective though!  :lol:

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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #131 on: January 22, 2012, 06:38:58 PM »
hehe, cool idea, but no need, the scan is more than sufficient to work with  ;)

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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #132 on: January 22, 2012, 08:06:57 PM »
Nice job, that rejuvenator make monitors like new. :D

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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #133 on: January 23, 2012, 10:55:41 PM »
I don't know if it would help, but I have an actual California license plate in a box somewhere if a hires scan of the top would help.  It might be somewhat reflective though!  :lol:
Hah, that gave me a nice idea, we could have the license plates printed on plastic ;)

Seriously...here some pics of sunday morning:

Etienne preparing while "little helper" is making a test drive (bit hard without monitor but kids often don't really mind ;)


Etienne scanning my hi-tech heating..... ;)
Due to temperature differences there was some moist built up within the scanner and Etienne tries to get it out...


Hard to keep the scanner against the artwork....


So (once again) the rejuvenator proves to be handy, this time in supporting the scanner perfectly still  ;D ;D



Etienne, the artwork is definitely discolored, and not in an even way. The left side of the cab still looks best, in fact I think the left side art is about as good as it was original. You can see the canopy discolored more than the artwork:


The right side has seen more sunlight I guess because the artwork there does show discoloring.

Of course red is always the worst color for loosing color....

And of course thanks for all your help !!!!
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Re: Drive talkin'....
« Reply #134 on: January 23, 2012, 10:59:58 PM »
Hehehe, Etienne's mobile scanning service rules! :D
Can't wait for the results.