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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2013, 09:07:55 PM »
This one? ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2013, 09:16:03 PM »
orbital sander!!!
all i need is ... PONG - and a select few others: TOUCH ME, DRAGON'S LAIR, JOUST, ROBOTRON, MR DO, SAN FRANCISCO RUSH THE ROCK!!!

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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2013, 09:29:15 PM »
orbital sander!!!

Yeah OK that's for the "big" work....I'm talking hand-sanding after the big work.... I think I already found a way to check my work...
Got a nice small metal ruler that is guaranteed to be totally straight...



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« Reply #48 on: May 07, 2013, 11:11:54 AM »
I got some advice but it won't make you happy :( :(. Next time don't use bondo on these spots.... Bondo is really hard, so great for corner repair and working on metal like cars. I this case the bondo is much tougher then the surrounding wood so when you are sanding  you will always loose more surface material on the surrounding wood compared to the bondo. In this case a softer filler would be best.

But thats for next time now move forward with an orbital sander..... Take your time  :'(


Just mho of course.

Still it looks great, would love to see it up close in the near future ;)

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« Reply #49 on: May 07, 2013, 12:31:56 PM »
Your Ms Pac-Man is looking good Andre! :)

I would sand the bondo spots with sandpaper wrapped around a block of wood. So you get a nice big flat surface to sand with, making it easier to flatten things out.
At least that's what I am doing with my DK restoration at the moment, works well.

I don't feel the need to use an orbital sander yet, I didn't apply large blobs of bondo so it's pretty easy to sand it in my case.

Thanks for the paint colors tips!
I already removed the handgrips from the backside of the cabinet, revealing (probably) unfaded and brighter blue.
The yellow and pink will be harder to match, it's all faded pretty bad and touched up even worse, Bob Ross style.
Might use the marquee (plexi! is it a repro?) glass bezel or control panel overlay for color reference.
They're really bright, although not an exact match between the three.

The CPO and glass bezel have slight differences in line width.
And since the CPO is in perfect shape, I assume it's a repro.
Maybe someone can shine a light on that.

Oh, and the monitor is probably not the original monitor that came with the cabinet.
Look at the (light) burn. It's a horizontal game with 4 horizontal bars and the words "Game over" in the center of the screen.
Thought it of being the runningtracks of Hyper Olympics or Hyper Sports orso, but that's different.







 
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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #50 on: May 29, 2013, 10:17:43 AM »
Work is going on slowly but surely on this one.

I redid all the sanding, redid the primer on back panel, side and kickplate.

I also put a 2nd layer of blue on the top. Stupidly I forgot to do the insides of the kickplate but luckily this is just a very narrow area, better to do that with a small brush anyway.

I did do the back panel in blue too now so that's finished.

I think I've got about half the can of blue paint left so I promised that to Joeks, nice to be able to do something in return for the great coin door I got from him :)

Next steps is lightly sanding the side and kick area and then it's ready for the decals.

I also have to redo the CP. I have never had so much struggle with a CP as with this one and the belt sander was pretty harsh on it (or I was too clumsy), there are some visible dents. My experiences with the bondo and sanding will come in handy to make this a nice straight CP again...



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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #51 on: June 01, 2013, 11:13:44 PM »
I need some help guys.

I've been re-installing some smaller parts and the power section and harness today. I remember most of the stuff but some I've forgotten how it's exactly installed.

If anyone has/can make some good detailed pics of the inside from about all angles that would be great. I've got a couple myself (and I should make more next time) and these were done with my sucky camera phone:

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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #52 on: June 01, 2013, 11:18:07 PM »
...I especially would like to see how the harness to the CP and coin door is running.

Also need to know where are the big yellow grounding leads go to....

Thanks !

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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #53 on: June 02, 2013, 12:16:09 AM »
Would pics of the inside of a Pac Man help?

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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #54 on: June 02, 2013, 12:22:25 AM »
Not sure, the cab is a bit different of course....worth a try, on the other hand I guess then I could also have a look at my Bally-Midway Galaxian :)

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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #55 on: June 02, 2013, 12:42:53 AM »
Found the solution !



LOL :P

Regretfully not too helpful either even if it "shows everything" :)

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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #56 on: June 02, 2013, 02:25:20 PM »
I just came out of my dark hole were I took some pics of my ms. PM. I hope that these are of any help for you






















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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2013, 10:17:38 PM »
Great Erik, thanks !!!!

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Re: Ms.Pac gets a facelift and more...
« Reply #58 on: June 10, 2013, 07:54:05 AM »
Yes.....finally had some time yesterday.....

I guess my pics won't add much to Rich's (from www.thisoldgame.com) excellent video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RNrYnhHR-c ) but here they are anyway:

First you put the side-art on the cab.....Etienne had left a note with measurements and I triple checked them all.


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during measuring and positioning you use 1 clamp, when it's OK, put on 3. Of course it's smart to put some folded paper-towel between the clamps and the artwork....


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Then you'r ready for the application. Rich was so kind to send me a selection of "squeegees" as they're called in the US. The Dutch and German word is "rakel" if you want to google but note that Rich prepared them especially for our goal. Rich told me (and he mentions it on the video) that he was going to sell these on his site www.thisoldgame.com

The yellow one has a (rather thick) felt layer, the blue one has a thin layer of (IIRC) cotton. The pink one is for "tight inside corners" (IIRC) so I haven't used that one yet.
The roller I already had and I used that successfully for the black vinyl I've done so far.


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« Reply #59 on: June 10, 2013, 08:24:21 AM »
OK next you pull back "a couple of inches" of the artwork. This is pretty hard to do alone because of the thinness of the artwork, it's really much easier when someone helps you through the process.


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Next cut off the backing....


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Fold back and CAREFULLY stick the uncovered part to the cab. You can see I already got one bubble. If the bubble is really close to the "edge" you can still try pulling back the vinyl a bit, but sometimes I felt it was to risky to do.


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Now removed the clamps....no way you can change directions anymore now so you're either scoring or fucked ;)


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Next step is rolling back the artwork and putting a tube under it to keep it clear from the cab. We found out that a rectangular one works just as well, it will slide backwards automatically during the process.


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Next I tried to go up slowly alone, but it just didn't work well and for sure not easily. Got lots of bubbles. So I asked my wife for help. Pretty rare occasion because we didn't even get into an argument during the process.

It went better as we were at about 1/3 of the cab. Wilma used the squeegee with felt. It didn't seem to make any difference in result, both seem to work well, the cotton covered one my give a bit more "feel" of what you're doing though.


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Still we had plenty of small bubbles which psyched me out pretty much...


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BUT, I found a fool-proof solution.

Here is one bubble:


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Following a tip I got from my dad when doing wall-paper and how to remove bubbles, he said to punch a tiny hole into them (and then inject with some glue, but we skip that here of course). There were so many bubbles that I simply had no choice but to try it:


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.....and gone ! Absolutely totally invisible !!!


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No more fear of bubbles ! :)

Took quite some time to do them all but succeeded in doing them all.

Next I got out the heat-gun, on low setting and a fair distance from the vinyl. Then carefully pull on the edges and make a nice fold over the edge.

One word of warning: If you have artwork that is printed with colors up to the edges of the cab DO NOT OVERSTRETCH THE VINYL. It didn't happen to me, but I tried it out on a scrap piece and you will get a light (white) spot if you do it.

Go VERY easy with the heat-gun, never hold it still pointed to the artwork, always keep it moving and point away when you're folding.

You can stick the vinyl to the other side of the cab without problems, as long as you don't press it down it will come off very easily.


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Then comes the easiest part, trimming it:


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Do yourself a favor and don't save on a blade for your X-acto knife, use a new one every time. They need to be razor sharp to work well. It's not that important in the T-molding grooves but it is on the backside where the backdoor goes, you want a nice clean and straight cut there. (I also suggest to start there because of this).

This X-acto knife holder I bought at Action by the way, the holder is great and it comes with some blades, but I buy the original X-acto blades because that's the important part.


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Make it nice and tight as possible, on corners you can't avoid this effect, but since we're covering with T-molding it won't be a problem. Make nice sharp folds like on the right side of the picture, the middle part is still too "loose" here.


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And that's it !

The end result is EXTREMELY rewarding if I may say so myself. I did a much better job on sanding away the bondo and getting this as straight as possible. There may still be some uneven parts but hardly visible and well, I bet the wood wasn't always perfect fresh from the factory either.

I am very very pleased with it:


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