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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #75 on: May 06, 2011, 11:09:50 PM »
Thread= the DIAMETER of the screw. So in our CLEAR and SIMPLE metric system, M4= 4 mm. M8= 8 mm. etc. (Hard to believe you never heard about this, have you never bought any screws before ??)   

thx for your lengthy and useful explanations, andré - there's a lot of useful information about the different screw types here! of course i have bought tons of screws before, the problem is that this screw is listed as M4 and as i've said i can't find 4mm anywhere on it, that's why i asked where i am supposed ot measure this. i think i'll just order 16 and 20 millimeters, they don't cost an incredible amount of money, so i could as well order a couple more to try them out. and YES, black it is, the stainless steel was just an example! thx again, i'll have to sleep over it and get my order together tomorrow. let's see how fast the delivery is, the parts from the powdercoater should be back next week ...
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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #76 on: May 06, 2011, 11:10:07 PM »
Print this and compare your screw....http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/Printable-Tools/Metric-Hex-Bolt-Sizes.pdf

Also look at the number of windings of the thread. UNC is different in windings than metric. It's something you will see once you have some experience with them...

The ultimate test would be to go to a hardware or DIY store and ask for an M4 nut and then try to turn the nut onto the screw.

If it works, it's metric. If you cannot get it to fit, it's Imperial sized (Also called UNS, or ANSI).
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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #77 on: May 06, 2011, 11:12:05 PM »
The ultimate test would be to go to a hardware or DIY store and ask for an M4 nut and then try to turn the nut onto the screw.
If it works, it's metric. If you cannot get it to fit, it's Imperial sized (Also called UNS, or ANSI).

i should have one around here somewhere ...

EDIT: just checked, M4 screws on nicely! :)
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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #78 on: May 06, 2011, 11:14:19 PM »
Here it is:
http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/
Read, read read my friend. Printable Fasterer tools also available !!! Woo-hoo !

that's a great page with nice printable stuff! i should put that on my wall somewhere - might help stop asking stupid questions! 8)
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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #79 on: May 06, 2011, 11:14:22 PM »
Do you have a clip of that manual that shows the screw and part nr...

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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #80 on: May 06, 2011, 11:15:35 PM »
Here it is:
http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/
Read, read read my friend. Printable Fasterer tools also available !!! Woo-hoo !

that's a great page with nice printable stuff! i should put that on my wall somewhere - might help stop asking stupid questions! 8)


More here !

http://www.boltdepot.com/fastener-information/Printable-Tools/Default.aspx

What a brilliant site it is !!!! Everyone should bookmark it !

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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #81 on: May 06, 2011, 11:30:38 PM »
Do you have a clip of that manual that shows the screw and part nr...

here you go, i've copied the description underneath the picture. note that it doesn't say 18 mm here, this is only listed in the assembly instructions later on!

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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #82 on: May 06, 2011, 11:33:44 PM »
Ah, yeah that must be metric for sure....pretty weird (just checked the manual) as about all other fasteners are imperial....

The length could be pretty critical in this application.


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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #83 on: May 06, 2011, 11:39:51 PM »
The length could be pretty critical in this application.

definitely longer than 16 and shorter than 20, but it ain't 18 either (at least according to my measures). as i've said, i'll have a look at those plastic halves tomorrow and see which one might work! thx for your help andré, you've cleared things up for me big time. :-*
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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #84 on: May 07, 2011, 12:15:24 AM »
Ully, I recommend you to check all the 8 trigger switches before you put that controller together, they are the weak points of these machines, there was 4 from 8 broken or malfunctioned on mine.
They used Omron B3G-S switches for the controller, you can check them here in Bruno's Starblade topic:
https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=28.0
If you need some replacements, you can find them here, but they are very expensive
http://videogameparts.com/product.sc?productId=11&categoryId=18

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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #85 on: May 07, 2011, 07:26:55 AM »
Hi - yes those Omrom switches are dreadful, they were cheap and nasty from day 1 too, they are also not fixable as the actual switch component is encased in plastic, even tho the main body is easily separated. I have tracked down switches that look almost the same, fit perfectly but are buckling spring switches, much higher quality. On my cabinet only 3 of the original switches worked and they are rather intermittant.

One other point - it looks like you are missing the O rings that go in the controllers (mine had crumbled mostly to dust), they stop the handles from rattling on the metal stems. Thankfully they are a standard size so very easy to replace.

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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #86 on: May 07, 2011, 09:39:23 AM »
Ully, I recommend you to check all the 8 trigger switches before you put that controller together, they are the weak points of these machines, there was 4 from 8 broken or malfunctioned on mine.

thx bela, how can i test those switches before installing them? it that a "physical" test or an electronic one?
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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #87 on: May 07, 2011, 09:43:10 AM »
One other point - it looks like you are missing the O rings that go in the controllers (mine had crumbled mostly to dust), they stop the handles from rattling on the metal stems. Thankfully they are a standard size so very easy to replace.

thx for reminding me, but i took a picture of one of those rings (with my finger pointing towards it) when i disassembled the controller so that i won't forget replacing them. as far as i know, i can get those rings in any home depot!

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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #88 on: May 07, 2011, 11:02:25 AM »
Ully, I recommend you to check all the 8 trigger switches before you put that controller together, they are the weak points of these machines, there was 4 from 8 broken or malfunctioned on mine.

thx bela, how can i test those switches before installing them? it that a "physical" test or an electronic one?
I made a physical test, but please note, that the upper switches are for the gun rotation and in the first level you can't rotate them.You have to pass level 1 somehow, collect as many stars as you can and buy the gun rotation upgrade.If I remember right, you can also buy this upgrade for more credits. ;)
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Re: [Restoration] Veni, Vidi, Vindicators
« Reply #89 on: May 08, 2011, 12:54:05 AM »
Yes, you have to buy the upgrade in the game to enable turret rotation, but test mode will let you test the all. Or just hook them up to a multimetermif they are not wired.

Those O rings should be easy to get, the controllers are very rattley without them.