2010 Monitor Group Buy (through Mitchomagic) - The arrangement

[Superully]

i wouldn't divide it by the number of monitors, i would divide it by the number of buyers, because it doesn't matter how many monitors we're bringing over - a van is a van and it doesn't cost more or less no matter how many monitors we load up.

[gyruss]

Yes, count me in for one (or 2) free used monitor next to the new one. 

[level42]

i wouldn't divide it by the number of monitors, i would divide it by the number of buyers, because it doesn't matter how many monitors we're bringing over - a van is a van and it doesn't cost more or less no matter how many monitors we load up.

That would make the price for people who just want one monitor a lot higher than for people who want more (like me, 4/5) so I'm all for it !  

Seriously, I think Erik's suggestion is the most fair one of the two.

[gyruss]

Yes, I also think that 

[Superully]

i have to disagree with you guys, but not because i'm interested in more than one monitor. if we were to SHIP those over, i'd say divide it by the number of monitors, because in this case weight would matter, but a pickup ... ? i can't see a logical reason for NOT dividing the costs equally!

[falcon NL]

Well im up for one!

Its not a problem for me to get a van for free (gass isnt but you get the idea). Dont know if it can hold 31 monitors because i have no idea of the "size" of the boxes.

[ckong]

Well im up for one!

Its not a problem for me to get a van for free (gass isnt but you get the idea). Dont know if it can hold 31 monitors because i have no idea of the "size" of the boxes.

WOW, that's great, we have a van for free. Thanks very much, I will update the first post immediately 

For the size of the boxes, Mitch could ask the seller for that, but you can get an idea if you check the photo here: https://www.dragonslairfans.com/smfor/index.php?topic=1480.45

[level42]

i have to disagree with you guys, but not because i'm interested in more than one monitor. if we were to SHIP those over, i'd say divide it by the number of monitors, because in this case weight would matter, but a pickup ... ? i can't see a logical reason for NOT dividing the costs equally!

I don't see the difference between having it shipped or the costs of picking up ?

Costs is costs.

Let's say that we end up with 10 guys wanting monitors.
Let's assume a rough 500 euro (based on nothing) costs.

Now If Gyruss wants 1 monitor, he would have to pay 50 euro costs.
If I buy 5 monitors, I also pay 50 euro costs, so for each monitor only 10 euro costs

That's just weird IMHO...

[ckong]

i have to disagree with you guys, but not because i'm interested in more than one monitor. if we were to SHIP those over, i'd say divide it by the number of monitors, because in this case weight would matter, but a pickup ... ? i can't see a logical reason for NOT dividing the costs equally!

I don't see the difference between having it shipped or the costs of picking up ?

Costs is costs.

Let's say that we end up with 10 guys wanting monitors.
Let's assume a rough 500 euro (based on nothing) costs.

Now If Gyruss wants 1 monitor, he would have to pay 50 euro costs.
If I buy 5 monitors, I also pay 50 euro costs, so for each monitor only 10 euro costs

That's just weird IMHO...

I agree with André, it's far more honest and in the community spirit if everone pays the same amount for their monitors, regardless the number of monitors they buy.

[ckong]

About the used monitors, I spoke with Ully about that and he suggested more or less the following: there are about 10 used monitors and about 10 participants (up to now). Everyone can show their interest for a used monitor (which Ully and Gyruss already did). When the deal is rounded up, we know how many people want a used monitor. Then we divide (I love to divide   ) the number of monitors by the number of people who want one. If someone only wants one, or two, like Gyruss, his surplus can go to Ully, as he stated that he will take any remaining used monitor.

D'accord?

Oh, remember that those used monitors have several sizes, which will be a surprise for you.

[gyruss]

Yes, that sounds very reasonable.

[Superully]

puh, this is getting difficult

still don't agree with you guys! when i order something online, say books, i usually have to pay the same postage, no matter whether i order one book or four. now in our case the books are the monitors and the postage is the gas. we would need a van no matter how many monitors we take (well, at least if we take more than say 6), so to me there's no difference at all. in fact, we could even start arguing that by getting together to make this bulk buy, we get a better price for the whole bunch of monitors. doesn't this mean in the end that the guys who take more monitors should get a discount depending on the amount of monitors they take? as i've said: we COULD argue like that, but i don't want to, because i tend to stick to simple maths: divide everything equally and be done with it. but that's just my two cents!

what do the other guys think?

[level42]

... i tend to stick to simple maths: divide everything equally and be done with it.

That's exactly what we think THUS dividing the costs per monitor. It's simply not fair to let some guys pay a large amount if they just want one.

Even though Superully's idea would be beneficial for me, I don't feel like it is an honest way to do it.

I say we vote for it (although I feel like we are cutting pieces of a cake that still has to be baked):

[Superully]

i'd say keep it simple and logical, but i guess i'll have to go with the majority in the end. of course, if it's just a couple of euros, i don't care! let's get some prices first and take it from there ...

[level42]

It's not that I don't want to try to understand, but I just don't seem to get it...