Thanks guys
Yes unfortunately I was in retro gamer, I hope I didn't ruin you read .
The cocktails are great for shooting games with just left right fire,but playing any 4 way games is much more difficult.
Also I find the more casual player likes to play on the cocktails more as they remember them more back in the day.
So yes I like them a lot and have got 14,500 on spacefirebird which I think is in the top 5 scores.
But if you want to get good at donkey kong stick to the upright
Cheers guys