Dragon's Lair Fans - Arcade Lifestyle
General Chat => Arcade Lifestyle => Topic started by: Superully on October 14, 2014, 12:41:43 PM
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ever since i failed to get a nintendo vs dualsystem upright AND ever since i realized how beautiful those dualsystem cocktails aka red tents are, i had wanted one - especially since i already had a nice collection of vs roms and vs ppus at home. a few weeks back another one showed up on marktplaats. i contacted the seller immediately with an offer, but he told me that it was already spoken for. HOWEVER, he said that he's considering the other one he has from his personal collection. i asked for pics, this one was even nicer than the one on marktplaats and me made a deal. now the only problem was to get this baby to my place. i contacted patrick "anunaki" who lives in the same town as the seller, but was surprised to hear that patrick was also offered a red tent :o. what the heck is going on here, we thought. well, it turned out that the seller not only had two, but FOUR red tents in his possession, all of which are gone by now, so don't bother contacting the seller! to make a long story short: patrick kindly agree to pick up the cabinet for me, but not only that, he also made an appointment with erik who was coming over to pick up my pleaids, they passed the torch and erik eventually delivered the red tent to my place! EADS at its best!!! :)
last sunday was the day i had been waiting for for quite a while and i had already done some preparations, like making up some space in my gameroom ... :arrow:
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... like clearing the stairs as much as possible :arrow:
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... like putting some much needed energy drinks in the fridge :arrow:
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ok erik, everything's ready, you can deliver the red tent to my doorstep now, please ;D
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however, it wasn't as easy as it looked, because two years ago the guys living one floor down decided to put a closet for shoes in the middle of the staircase - right where the stairs are really narrow. and with the red tent being deeper than the usual arcade cabinets, there was no way we could pass the closet. there was only one option: move the entire thing up one staircase and push it into the apartment of my neighbours (sorry, another blurry picture. was i drunk?). when we later moved the closet back again to its original position, it almost completely fell apart. what a cheap piece of shit!!! :shock:
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anyway, before i show you some good photos of the red tent, i have a small problem: the plug has been cut off and therefore i have no idea what kind of voltage that baby needs! the identification plaque says 120 volts, but the coin inserts show GULDEN - the former dutch currency!
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unfortunately, i can't make heads or tails of the innards, some wires seem to be connected to 220 volts, some to 110 volts and those nintendo monitors use 100 volts.
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the red tents from marktplaats we've seen so far all had the 120 volts plaque if i remember correctly, but were running on 230 volts without a stepdown converter, but i want to be sure before i install the plug and "fire up the engine" - don't wanna blow this thing up!!!
so perhaps some of you guys can tell me what's going on with the wiring. if you need any more pics, please feel free to ask, i'll gladly take some ...
there's more to the story to be told, but for now let's try to get the power issue solved, please!!!
thx guys :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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The other on from the same seller was 230 V
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OK, it seems your 'stepdown converter' is this transformer. 220V go in and 110 go out, wired to what seems to be a power supply block (AC IN). This large transformer has been added to provide 110V for the cab when your voltage is 220/230V.
To be 100% sure we need to know where the black and white wires go to.
If they go to the wires with the missing plug, then it is clear this cab was modified to get 220V :)
Simply add a Schuko-Stecker ;)
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Fire it up ! ;D ;D
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Looks like it, the "gold" wires comming from the sec side of the transformer (110) are spliced into the black-white wire that go into the Original connection point of the red tent.
the black white wire comming from the mains cable are cut there and wired to the 220 volt side as far as i can see it
looks like they simply cut the black white wire and placed the transformer in between.
black white is usually used for 110 volts.
so yes, its 99,9% sure you can just plug it to 220
if still in doubt, place a stepdown in front of it, if it does not work, its simply because it wants 220 (which i am 100% convinced of) ;D
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And that, according to what I heard, is the reason why these machines were never put in use on the Stena line ships. They didn't comply with European electrical standards.\
Thank god for that as it brought about 6 of these great machines into collectors hands :)
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thx for your help, guys, we have a working red tent!!! :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
will update later ...
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Yeah, it was not easy lifting that game up to the third floor by myself, but I managed! :D
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They are damn heavy aswell!
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Nice catch !
Do you really need a CS and a Pong after that ? :lol:
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Nice catch !
Do you really need a CS and a Pong after that ? :lol:
Nope, it's now time for him to buy my Gauntlet Legends ;)
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Do you really need a CS and a Pong after that ? :lol:
absolutely, just a few more games on my wanted list!!!
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Congrats Ully! Now, get Vs. Balloon Fight, f*****g awesome game!!! :spaceace:
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it's the weekend, guys, time to inspect the game a little bit further (after cleaning the hell out of it and rebuilding / lubricating all four joysticks)! all in all, i'd say the cabinet is in really good shape. it's not mint, but very presentable :arrow:
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it does have some dings here and there plus obviously something was screwed to the cabinet once (those holes are on the other side as well), don't ask me what, perhaps a light gun ???
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also some deformations to the metal cage, but i'll leave those for now!
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after a lot of polishing, the metal feet almost look like new 8)
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and now for something completley different: not only brought erik the red tent with him, he also delivered two large mysterious boxes to my doorstep :arrow:
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inside: BRICKS!!! :)
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ever since i saw those "chairs / benches" on the eurocade photos i wanted those for my gameroom and ever since i knew i'd be getting a red tent i had wanted them in red. with the help of pieter (who managed to find the manufacturer and helped me get in touch with the right person to talk to), erik's wife (who picked them up for me) and erik (who delivered them to my place) i managed to get two of them in RED TENT RED!!!
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basically it's a block of hard red plastic, but still very light, easy to move around and pretty comfortable to sit on. PLUS the perfect size for a red tent cabinet!
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and here it is, my red tent :-* with the bricks in its new location!
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currently i have the following games installed on main boards: super marios bros and dr mario on one board running on single screens, wrecking crew and ballon fight on one board each running on dual screens. i also have the roms for excite bike and vs tennis (FOUR players at once on two screens), but i'm still missing a few cpus, ppus and of course main boards. so in case you have some of that stuff lying around and are willing to sell it, please get in touch with me ...
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there are a few ideas i currently have for my setup (e.g. the instruction cards), but for now i'm more than happy with what i've got! the price was pretty good, the cabinet is fully operational and the service to get it here unbeatable. once again, this community ROCKED!!!
one last time: thanks patrick, thanks pieter, thanks erik :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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ever since i saw those "chairs / benches" on the eurocade photos i wanted those for my gameroom and ever since i knew i'd be getting a red tent i had wanted them in red. with the help of pieter (who managed to find the manufacturer and helped me get in touch with the right person to talk to), erik's wife (who picked them up for me) and erik (who delivered them to my place) i managed to get two of them in RED TENT RED!!!
I like those benches, who is the manufacturer (in the Netherlands)?
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Very nice combination Ully and I am glad that I could help. :)
But Damn, I knew I forgot to bring something back home, what does that Frogger still do at your place? :D :D :D
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It looks like the holes are for the gun holster. No idea why they drilled into the cabinet through :-(
They are usually fitted as a replacement for one of the joysticks. How would they have powered both the gun and joysticks? Any wire cutting inside?
I got some instruction cards printed onto marquee type material, and replaced the clear perspex that sit over the cards. That will look good on yours
Very nice though Ully. Looks in better shape than mine
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It looks like the holes are for the gun holster. No idea why they drilled into the cabinet through :-(
They are usually fitted as a replacement for one of the joysticks. How would they have powered both the gun and joysticks? Any wire cutting inside?
from what i can tell, no cut wires / no hacking inside, but i can check again. holsters were my first idea as well, but perhaps it was only for ashtrays :P
I got some instruction cards printed onto marquee type material, and replaced the clear perspex that sit over the cards. That will look good on yours
i've got the clear perspex as well, but removed it because i have a different idea. have to make some tests first though. do you have some pics of your solution?
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from what i can tell, no cut wires / no hacking inside, but i can check again. holsters were my first idea as well, but perhaps it was only for ashtrays :P
Could be, but looks like the right hole positons for the holster. If there is no cable hacking near that area (the gun will need additional power off the coin mechs) then it probably was an ash tray.
i've got the clear perspex as well, but removed it because i have a different idea. have to make some tests first though. do you have some pics of your solution?
My perspex was cracked so I had to replace it. Yes I have pics:
Instruction cards:
http://www.arcadecollectors.co.uk/mystuff/myprojects/nintendovs/nintendo-repro-instruction-cards/
Fitted with new perspex:
http://www.arcadecollectors.co.uk/mystuff/myprojects/nintendovs/instruction-cards/
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Instruction cards:
http://www.arcadecollectors.co.uk/mystuff/myprojects/nintendovs/nintendo-repro-instruction-cards/
those look really nice! a few questions:
- did you grab the artwork from john's arcade?
- if that's the case, did you edit it in any way?
- are those prints the same size as original instruction cards?
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Instruction cards:
http://www.arcadecollectors.co.uk/mystuff/myprojects/nintendovs/nintendo-repro-instruction-cards/
those look really nice! a few questions:
- did you grab the artwork from john's arcade?
- if that's the case, did you edit it in any way?
- are those prints the same size as original instruction cards?
The person that printed them for me already had the artwork for some of the cards, others were taken from various sources including John's arcade. Some were re-sized to be like the original sizes.
The prints were very close to the original. I think I did a comparison picture. I'll try and dig it out
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Found it:
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ever since i saw those "chairs / benches" on the eurocade photos i wanted those for my gameroom and ever since i knew i'd be getting a red tent i had wanted them in red. with the help of pieter (who managed to find the manufacturer and helped me get in touch with the right person to talk to), erik's wife (who picked them up for me) and erik (who delivered them to my place) i managed to get two of them in RED TENT RED!!!
I like those benches, who is the manufacturer (in the Netherlands)?
Uh: (https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5610/15537742476_c2c4de3d1c_b_d.jpg)
;D ;D
http://www.feek.nl
For the non-Dutch speakers under us: Feek is pronounced like "fake" in English. So...it's a play with word/sound. "Feek" is not a word in Dutch.
They sure look awesome, especially to the red tent Ully, congrats ! Were they expensive ?
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Uh: (https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5610/15537742476_c2c4de3d1c_b_d.jpg)
;D ;D
http://www.feek.nl
Ah, thats the letter K turned sideways :oops:
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Waha, LOL, and you were getting this on your Google searches:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=fee
;D
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They sure look awesome, especially to the red tent Ully, congrats ! Were they expensive ?
thx, i really like them myself ;D. expensive? don't know, you tell me: 110 a piece
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The person that printed them for me already had the artwork for some of the cards, others were taken from various sources including John's arcade. Some were re-sized to be like the original sizes.
that's mr muddymusic, right? guess i'll have to ask him to print some of them for me as well :)
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The person that printed them for me already had the artwork for some of the cards, others were taken from various sources including John's arcade. Some were re-sized to be like the original sizes.
that's mr muddymusic, right? guess i'll have to ask him to print some of them for me as well :)
Yup that's correct!
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They sure look awesome, especially to the red tent Ully, congrats ! Were they expensive ?
thx, i really like them myself ;D. expensive? don't know, you tell me: 110 a piece
That's a lot better than I expected. Designer stuff is usually very expensive. Try to find a good quality stool for that money, pretty hard for sure....not a bad price at all IMHO. They are really nice IMHO.
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That's a lot better than I expected. Designer stuff is usually very expensive. Try to find a good quality stool for that money, pretty hard for sure....not a bad price at all IMHO. They are really nice IMHO.
agreed! i was expecting more myself, but was happily surprised. i also like quite a few other items from their collection, so i'm pretty sure this hasn't been the last time i've dealt with them :)
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That's a lot better than I expected. Designer stuff is usually very expensive. Try to find a good quality stool for that money, pretty hard for sure....not a bad price at all IMHO. They are really nice IMHO.
agreed! i was expecting more myself, but was happily surprised. i also like quite a few other items from their collection, so i'm pretty sure this hasn't been the last time i've dealt with them :)
Please do. Then I can bring the designer stuff to you when I collect the frog! ;D
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Nice grab! Looks to be in good shape. Is that red finish original or did someone repaint it? Looks to have a heavy texture or is it the photos?
Those benches are SUPER cool. I like!!
I found some really inexpensive vintage 70s bowling alley type leather (fake?) chairs. They sit super low and are an amazing fit for the Red Tent. Found them at a flea market.
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Nice grab! Looks to be in good shape. Is that red finish original or did someone repaint it? Looks to have a heavy texture or is it the photos?
afaik it's the original finish. and YES you're right, pretty heavy texture on the machine!
I found some really inexpensive vintage 70s bowling alley type leather (fake?) chairs. They sit super low and are an amazing fit for the Red Tent. Found them at a flea market.
hehe, i like those chairs as well, they fit the red tent design nicely!
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Maybe the metal is rusting under the paint, like happens with the coin-doors ? The one's from the "Stena line" lot may have seen som salty sea air even though they were never on board. I start to doubt this though, there's enough wear on both your and Gyruss's machine to safely say they have seen at least some use. Maybe they were used for a while and later removed....
Those chairs are awesome too John, really like that style !
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one of the others had 2000 on the counter, so they have been used
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There ya go....
Looking at Ully's pictures again I don't think that that is rust.....it is way too even to be rust. So John, is yours not textured ?
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Mine got the same texture and also exactly the same damage on top and the 4 holes in the cp...
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I can't imagine the texture to be rust, it looked way to good for that
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It isn't rust, it is texture.
Maybe the red tents were bolted to the floor with a steel bar or something, that's why the holes are there. Remember, they were used on a ship where all heavy stuff needs to be bolted to the deck so no passengers can get hurt in rough weather by tumbling red tents! :)
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Hey guys, can someone else confirm it isn't rust.............or maybe it was a brown tent before ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Mine has a slight texture, I think. Maybe it's the lighting in the photos that is making it look super textured. Dunno!
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some update / useful information for the nintendo vs system owners out there! i had quite a few mainboards, ppus and roms, BUT only a limited number of cpus. they have gone up in price recently, clocking in at 15 bucks per chips at mike's arcade. add shipping to that and you'll have to pay some serious money for a few chips. so i did some searching on the internet and found exactly what i've been looking for at our favorite chinese marketplace: alibaba! shipping was free, so i thought i could give it a try and ordered five ppus for a total of 25 euros. you can do the maths: that's 5 euros per chip :P
yesterday a package arrived
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no customs fees - value too low ;D
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here the are - 5 chips as ordered
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of course the big question was: will they work? after all, they are from china plus i've heard that sometimes cpus work, sometimes they don't, depending on the rom set and the motherboard. so i installed them on my vs tennis first and voila :arrow:
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put two more on vs balloon fight with the same result: fully working! perhaps that information will come handy for some of your guys, it certainly did the trick for me ... :spaceace: :spaceace: :spaceace:
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Ully, that's handy. Do you have a link to where they were bought from please?
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Wow, so this means when you can burn every vs game availible and put it on a mainboard?
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That is pretty cool ! You can even erase a game to burn a new one if you do not like it.
You should download all the ROM before copyright restriction appear.
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here's what i bought: click me hard!!! (http://de.aliexpress.com/item/RP2A03E/731062045.html)
my memory wasn't that good though, price per piece is 5.20 DOLLARS plus 4.21 bucks shipping - end result is almost the same though, still absolutely cheap!!! will probably order a few more now that i know they're working!
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Wow, so this means when you can burn every vs game availible and put it on a mainboard?
you still need the correct PPU for the specific game.
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Ully, I have read most (if not all) of our roadtrips and restorations, you have a ton of would-kill-for-them cabs, but this Red Tent is really... really... I don't have the words for it! Damn, this beautyful lady is sexy as hell!
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Wow, so this means when you can burn every vs game availible and put it on a mainboard?
No, those are CPUs not PPUs.
Nice find!
I ordered about 30 CPUs from Mike's Arcade when they were $5.00 a piece. You can blame me for the price increase. :) SORRY!!!
BTW ----- Adam bought some of those China RP2A03's and the sound was messed up when used in a Punch-Out. So, they might work fine as CPUs for VS. boards but not as sound CPUs in other Nintendo boards.
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I ordered about 30 CPUs from Mike's Arcade when they were $5.00 a piece. You can blame me for the price increase. :) SORRY!!!
HOARDER!!! ;D
BTW ----- Adam bought some of those China RP2A03's and the sound was messed up when used in a Punch-Out. So, they might work fine as CPUs for VS. boards but not as sound CPUs in other Nintendo boards.
uh, will have to check in more detail, thx for the heads up, john
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Great thread this and so much to learn
I am now officially a VS guy :)
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I am now officially a VS guy :)
congrats, it's such a great system!!!